How the church might thrive going forwardhttps://baptist.nz/series/the-changes-ahead-podcast/It is no secret that the church in the West is in decline and there seems to have been unending talk about the church needing to change. Despite this, the number of sustainable alternatives or even smaller changes to what most would be familiar with as church is tragically low. This podcast is capturing thoughts of people who can see the Changes Ahead of us. Together we’ll be challenged, provoked even, by the views of people who are thinking about how the church might thrive going forward. So we invite you to join co-hosts Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone as we imagine the Changes Ahead.https://baptist.nz/series/the-changes-ahead-podcast/https://admin.ezystream.com/static/images/podcast/4dfd6de7-1b15-4ea8-a033-621442a49357.pngCathy Marston & Steven GoulstoneCathy Marston & Steven Goulstonecommsadmin@baptist.org.nzen-usBaptist New Zealand, Marston & GoulstonenoIt is no secret that the church in the West is in decline and there seems to have been unending talk about the church needing to change. Despite this, the number of sustainable alternatives or even smaller changes to what most would be familiar with as church is tragically low. This podcast is capturing thoughts of people who can see the Changes Ahead of us. Together we’ll be challenged, provoked even, by the views of people who are thinking about how the church might thrive going forward. So we invite you to join co-hosts Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone as we imagine the Changes Ahead. This minute-long introduction sets the scene for what is to come.Mon, 30 May 2022 00:00:00 +0000Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneCathy Marston and Steven Goulstone1:00a90bccb2-02cb-41d0-9131-5bf0413b9701noIn this first episode of The Changes Ahead Podcast, your hosts, Cathy and Steven chat together about why this podcast exists, and reflect on their hopes for what Changes Ahead there are for the church.Wed, 20 Jul 2022 00:00:00 +0000Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneCathy Marston and Steven Goulstone26:000fbca0dc-6c1c-44b7-826f-6b1b555eb0c1noAs someone who loves Jesus and is following the Spirit’s call to a different way of living, Nicole wonders if church as we know it is really it? Is church really what we get from the radical life of Jesus? She helps us imagine what could be and invites us to step into the unknown future ahead of us, without being weighed down by the pressures of the past.Wed, 27 Jul 2022 00:00:00 +0000Nicole Viljoen with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneNicole Viljoen with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone44:009a032ce3-0e76-4f0a-bce8-e4a3300df4fenoAre we just downloading information into people, or is it about journeying together to be formed in Christlikeness? In this episode Caleb reflects on his experience from his time pastoring and in his present role lecturing on the function of discipleship and how both church and theological institutions can either help or hinder that process. How too does the monocultural structure of the Western church contribute to a more ideological rather than character formation focus?Wed, 10 Aug 2022 00:00:00 +0000Caleb Haurua with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneCaleb Haurua with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone42:000fe44117-a214-44e0-a934-f7c33e122a73noIn light of the release of the Pathfinding report on the ARISE church, and Jaimee’s own reflections on its implications for the wider church, we unpack with Jaimee what it might look like if we were to take the 92 recommendations seriously. We’re invited to turn the spotlight on ourselves and consider our part to play as we wrestle with what the church is and who we are aspiring to be in Aotearoa today.Wed, 24 Aug 2022 00:00:00 +0000Jaimee van Gemerden with Cathy Marston & Steven GoulstoneJaimee van Gemerden with Cathy Marston & Steven Goulstone42:00a503dcb3-617f-40d4-81c6-aa9d7fc83608noIn this episode we talk to Sarah about what it’s like to join a church without having grown up in one and the inevitable questions that come up in that process. Can we say, we’ll try to be like Jesus, instead of promising we definitely will be? What about how the church has contributed to the shame that some adolescents feel, and what can we do about it?Wed, 07 Sep 2022 00:00:00 +0000Sarah Buckwell with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneSarah Buckwell with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone31:004818c97a-040d-4e32-bc84-205cefac30a2noIn this episode, we speak to Halee and Rui, an entrepreneurial couple who are seeking to serve their community through sustainable business, alongside learning from people who are often not heard from in church that offer different and new insights into who God is.Thu, 22 Sep 2022 00:00:00 +0000Halee & Rui Peng with Cathy Marston & Steven GoulstoneHalee & Rui Peng with Cathy Marston & Steven Goulstone31:00732e89af-415b-464b-8f32-ec2e9e89ef27noHow can science and faith co-exist? How can science inform our faith? With the concerning implications of climate change for now and future generations, and if care for the planet is something humans are responsible for, where is the church in those efforts? We speak with Brook about his journey of expansion and his passion for working to reduce the impacts of Climate Change.Wed, 05 Oct 2022 00:00:00 +0000Brook Warner with Cathy Marston & Steven GoulstoneBrook Warner with Cathy Marston & Steven Goulstone41:009a27d065-a492-460f-a6f6-7e472dbd19fdnoIn recent times there has been some tension between the media and Christian faith. In this episode we talk to an award-winning journalist about how their faith intersects with their work in journalism, and explore together what the church can learn from those who are working in the media.Wed, 19 Oct 2022 00:00:00 +0000Justin Latif with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneJustin Latif with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone37:00043f40c1-919f-4a0b-bb86-23a516706dffnoWhat is it like to be exposed to new and vastly different ways of thinking to what you are used to? When we realise that there is always more than one way at looking at an issue, a question or truth, how do we reconcile that with our previously held perspectives. In this episode we hear from recent Carey Baptist College Pastoral Leadership graduate, Sacha Olson, about what her journey in these spaces has been like.Tue, 01 Nov 2022 00:00:00 +0000Sacha Olsen with Cathy Marston & Steven GoulstoneSacha Olsen with Cathy Marston & Steven Goulstone38:00a4b48474-98be-4ce7-b529-dd3e676941b2noAs we begin to wrap up the first season of this podcast, we hear from two pastors who have listened to every previous episode. Together they highlight one of the themes that has been clear throughout all of the earlier conversations: of taking the time, and having a posture to listen to voices which bring challenge and critique.Fri, 18 Nov 2022 00:00:00 +0000Jody Kilpatrick & Andrew Bollen with Cathy Marston & Steven GoulstoneJody Kilpatrick & Andrew Bollen with Cathy Marston & Steven Goulstone38:19857b4427-c18e-4023-b1b1-adb1727fd3a8noIn our final episode of the year, Cathy and Steven reflect on what they’ve heard and what The Changes Ahead might be.Wed, 30 Nov 2022 00:00:00 +0000Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneCathy Marston and Steven Goulstone33:006142ec36-9940-475c-b2be-4e484f2366f3noWe start this new season hearing from Jess about her experience with politics as a Youth MP and how that impacts her view of faith and church alongside the vital importance of meaningful representation and relationships so that all might thrive within faith communities.Thu, 23 Feb 2023 00:00:00 +0000Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneCathy Marston and Steven Goulstone40:000976bde3-bd6a-4edb-a900-39d14455454enoTo acknowledge International Women’s Day, in a vulnerable and inspiring conversation, Grace talks about her journey following holy discontent into places of leadership and invites us to reflect on the way women are treated in the church, offering suggestions for the way forward.Thu, 09 Mar 2023 00:00:00 +0000Grace Doak with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneGrace Doak with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone37:458561658f-96dd-4b9c-8e4a-9eb66781ae5dnoWe’re joined by fellow podcast host Andy Dickson from ‘Down to Earth Conversations’, who gives us an incredible vision for the simplicity of bringing a little bit of heaven down to earth by focusing on people first, embracing creativity, and always working towards what is just.Thu, 23 Mar 2023 00:00:00 +0000Andy Dickson with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneAndy Dickson with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone41:004126d211-e03e-481b-8b1c-17da90b6f483noWhat does healthy sexuality look like? What are some of the challenges for people in faith-based contexts in this area? How can we celebrate the good that is our bodies? These are just some of the questions we explore in this frank and really important conversation with Sex Therapist, Jo Robertson.Thu, 06 Apr 2023 00:00:00 +0000Jo Robertson with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneJo Robertson with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone49:00d5df73fc-0b74-4b43-9c18-59e3baea8820noIn this episode, we listen to Lindy’s story of leaving a high-demand religious context. We get to hear what that process was like; the trauma experienced both inside the high-demand space and the trauma of leaving. If we let it, the story can also hold a mirror up to our practices to identify any red flags. We also hear the hope of healing the Christian community can bring.Wed, 19 Apr 2023 00:00:00 +0000Lindy Jacomb with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneLindy Jacomb with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone47:00fe3a1125-cb33-4fc5-b704-c45779c1fff7noThe word deconstruction within Christian circles can often have negative connotations. Kenneth encourages us, out of his story of living abroad in some really challenging contexts as well as his work in Spiritual Direction, to reconsider the way we think of the deconstruction process and find the love of God in the midst of it.Thu, 04 May 2023 00:00:00 +0000Kenneth Fleck with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneKenneth Fleck with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone34:001e5cd2a6-d0d0-4faa-8294-45374a68898fnoWhat lenses do we bring to reading scripture? What are we missing by not considering the lenses different people bring to it? Jaimee offers us crucial insights into what a feminist lens offers the church today, including reflecting on the objectification of women that happens all too frequently in our church spaces. Jaimee’s reflections truly show us that feminism is good for everyone!Thu, 18 May 2023 00:00:00 +0000Jaimee van Gemerden with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneJaimee van Gemerden with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone52:0016f6bb43-984e-4781-8e23-15c6aa9281c1noWe’re invited to listen in to one youth pastor’s experience of serving and working alongside Rainbow Youth at youth group. How has this work changed him? How has it impacted him? We acknowledge that this is a sensitive topic for the church today, and are happy to engage with anyone who would like to discuss the topic or episode.Thu, 01 Jun 2023 00:00:00 +0000Zach Bartley with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneZach Bartley with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone35:0046c8fa92-2679-4930-910c-62b99b9ca07enoWhat does our response to the climate crisis require of us as individuals and faith communities? How does this response relate to loving our neighbours? In this episode, we hear from Chloe about her passion for sustainable living and how her discipleship impacts her study, future, church engagement and activism in the community.Wed, 14 Jun 2023 00:00:00 +0000Chloe Vos with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneChloe Vos with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone37:00bc05aff1-1afd-4bc1-982e-8d1368d05d74noWith grace, vulnerability, and honesty, Andrew shares the story of the death of his son. Hear how people around him responded, and about how his search for, and understanding of God changed. Together we reflect on something of the place of lament in our church spaces, and wonder how they might be transformed with more raw honesty. This is a raw episode, and so we encourage our listeners to take care of themselves as they sit with the story of someone else’s deep pain.Thu, 29 Jun 2023 00:00:00 +0000Andrew Bollen with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneAndrew Bollen with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone59:00ce72ad0b-8586-468c-a0f3-883e7de08895noJo is back to help us navigate conversations around porn, a topic that is too often ignored in church spaces. How do we have healthy conversations and give space to ask questions and figure out how to respond.Thu, 27 Jul 2023 00:00:00 +0000Jo Robertson with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneJo Robertson with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone54:00953f8c52-62c7-4973-90e0-a747f9bd198dnoWith courage and vulnerability, Deb and Alan invite us to listen to their story of navigating the complexity of unexpected news from one of their children. Prioritising love and safety, they share their journey of deep listening which leads them to a more profound understanding of how to love (or understanding new ways to love) their child who is transgender. [We acknowledge the diversity of thought within the church, in particular on topics of gender and sexuality.]Thu, 10 Aug 2023 00:00:00 +0000Deb and Alan with with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneDeb and Alan with with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone46:004b3ad977-813e-443f-b4a7-ed18be7701a9noAfter experiencing PTSD, Sarah explored her own trauma story and, from that experience, offers amazing insights for us as followers of Jesus into how we can better support people on the spectrum of mental wellness and what the posture of the church and those of us who make it up should be towards each other as we all seek to integrate our bodies, minds and faith journey.Thu, 24 Aug 2023 00:00:00 +0000Sarah Beisly with with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneSarah Beisly with with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone44:001150bc83-49f7-49f2-a456-88fa5eff8e1anoIn this raw and vulnerable conversation, social worker Mary-Anne shares her story of experiencing abuse, the journey of healing she is on, and the place of deep relationships in faith communities in that healing. TW: conversations relating to child sexual abuse, rape, suicide and domestic violence.Thu, 07 Sep 2023 00:00:00 +0000Mary-Anne with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneMary-Anne with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone45:0016ac56f4-2ca9-4fbe-a1e7-230e1ec3fb6bnoAs someone with interests in the sciences, alongside studying law, Arunan helps us wrestle with what faith looks like in the post-Christian world he is living in. While holding a deep commitment to the benefits of the church to society, he challenges us to recognise our status and position in order to live up to the potential we have.Thu, 21 Sep 2023 00:00:00 +0000Arunan Noble with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone Arunan Noble with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone 42:002c6fbb4e-7ab7-408e-8940-19575971bb6fnoWhy are you voting the way you are going to this week? How does faith inform the way you vote? Answering these questions can be tricky, but we reckon they're important ones to try. Since it’s election week, we thought we’d have a chat about what this means for us with Brook, someone who is passionate about engaging positively and faithfully in the political process.Wed, 11 Oct 2023 00:00:00 +0000Brook Warner with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneBrook Warner with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone34:501ac493fc-a0e1-415a-aab8-98b2423b88f9noWhen expectations don’t match reality, what is going to get us through? For Nat, a small business owner and mother of two, the values that underpin why she started her business sustained her in the professional and personal space she was in. As Nat shares her story, we get glimpses into how faith, parenting, business and church intersect to drive her forward and could speak to some of the changes ahead necessary for the church.Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:00:00 +0000Nat Milne with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneNat Milne with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone54:008bbe97a2-b720-4bd9-9e6e-897205a39740noWe've reached the end of another season, and to wrap it up, Cathy and Steven reflect on The Changes Ahead that we've heard this year and are trying in our church spaces through the lens of the recently released Wilberforce 'Faith and Belief' study. Thanks for being on the journey with us for another year!Thu, 07 Dec 2023 00:00:00 +0000Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneCathy Marston and Steven Goulstone31:00949e77b1-50de-4ac5-bd21-6f4437100910noWithout stopping to think, it could be easy to assume that slavery is a thing of the past, but in this conversation with Sarah, we will find out just how prevalent it is and why the church should get involved in working to eradicate slavery from the world. Welcome back to season 3 of The Changes Ahead Podcast!Mon, 29 Apr 2024 00:00:00 +0000Sarah Scott Webb with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneSarah Scott Webb with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone51:00509a5b40-4d35-4af1-97ae-626f062f7be1noSometimes, it can be hard to see what the Spirit is up to in the church, but for Paul Fletcher, who spends most of his time beyond the walls of the church he leads with people who are on the margins of society, the activity of the Spirit is far more evident. We can learn a lot from those experiences if we are courageous. Paul’s work also involves selling Common Good Coffee; it’s three times as good as regular coffee, a business that, simply by us drinking a great cup of coffee, supports people in some of the most difficult circumstances imaginable.Thu, 30 May 2024 00:00:00 +0000Paul Fletcher with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstonePaul Fletcher with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone44:0017c960df-a196-4f8f-8109-692b180bf42cnoWhy do so many young people in New Zealand experience homelessness, and why should the church be interested in being a part of the solution? Aaron Hendry has some ideas backed up by over a decade of working in this space. He is a youth development worker, writer, podcaster, and advocate for social justice who has a challenge for those of us with ears and hearts to hear.Thu, 27 Jun 2024 00:00:00 +0000Aaron Hendry with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneAaron Hendry with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone47:00294028f3-f967-49e8-9b85-fe27486090cenoWhat does mutual flourishing look like within relationships, and why is this an important change that is needed in our church narratives? Hear the story of two people figuring it out and seeing each other thrive as they seek the best ways for each other to live into and out of their gifts.Thu, 25 Jul 2024 00:00:00 +0000Christa and Matt McKirland with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneChrista and Matt McKirland with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone60:006a358af0-ffc4-4e1e-a7cd-ca65efa9ee6fnoWith the recent release of Whanaketia – Through pain and trauma, from darkness to light, the final report from the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-Based Care, we reflect with Jaimee on its implications, why it is so important to engage with this as churches and the desperate need for change in our spaces to do everything in our power to ensure abuse is no longer something anyone experiences in our spaces.Thu, 08 Aug 2024 00:00:00 +0000Jaimee van GemerdenJaimee van Gemerden52:00e3572e93-46dc-47ce-9379-62f236513da9noAnashuya shares her experiences of leadership and miraculous healing and how she has been and is being formed by both spaces. Ana invites us to think about what the future of the church might look like and where we are looking for its leaders. She shares the questions and wrestles that being ill and experiencing healing have raised.Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:00:00 +0000Anashuya Fletcher with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneAnashuya Fletcher with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone47:0093611529-4049-4182-8885-127d072f5a47noIn this episode Sean, Cathy’s husband and Steven’s long-term mentor, shares from his decades of working with young people the importance of being present in people’s lives in order to speak into them before challenging followers of Jesus to embrace a faith that is not going to leave us comfortable and safe.Thu, 26 Sep 2024 00:00:00 +0000Sean Marston with Steven Goulstone and Cathy MarstonSean Marston with Steven Goulstone and Cathy Marston48:003f97bdeb-9b8b-440b-beb4-b6ec1ee08642noWith the reality of less and less children and young people in our churches, perhaps it is time to listen to those who work directly with these generations – along with those generations themselves. Sarah is a Youth Development Worker calling the church to respect, uphold and value the voices and participation of children and young people as the church of today.Thu, 31 Oct 2024 00:00:00 +0000Sarah Finlay Robinson with Steven Goulstone and Cathy MarstonSarah Finlay Robinson with Steven Goulstone and Cathy Marston46:00744a288b-fe67-4932-ae3b-82650f2867b0noAs we close out 2024, we’ve got a couple of special guests commenting on what stood from the last year or so of episodes. Have a bit of fun with this AI review of The Changes Ahead Podcast! See you in 2025.Thu, 19 Dec 2024 00:00:00 +0000Special Guests with Steven Goulstone and Cathy MarstonSpecial Guests with Steven Goulstone and Cathy Marston23:006ea6f69a-a257-4901-9b0b-bb8f432272e7noWelcome to Season 4! We're starting with a compelling conversation with Bethany, who shares her journey of embracing authenticity in Wellington’s creative arts scene. She unpacks the dynamics of expressing her faith and identity as both a performer and a follower of Jesus.Thu, 20 Feb 2025 00:00:00 +0000Bethany Miller with Steven Goulstone and Cathy MarstonBethany Miller with Steven Goulstone and Cathy Marston38:00576e2609-17b2-47ed-af94-afcc85d48fd5noTreating people with respect and without judgment when we disagree might be one of the hardest things to do, especially in our increasingly polarised world, society and church. Using personal stories and giving practical tips, in this episode, Hazel guides us in the art of disagreeing well.Wed, 26 Mar 2025 00:00:00 +0000Hazel Dunn with Steven Goulstone and Cathy MarstonHazel Dunn with Steven Goulstone and Cathy Marston41:00319e0cc9-0a04-4d1e-b046-fa998ad99e7dnoHow can the experience of place-based institutions such as Sister Cities and Rotary Clubs inform where the church is at in 2025? Taylor shares from his research and offers some challenging insights and questions for us as the church.Thu, 24 Apr 2025 00:00:00 +0000Taylor Marston with Steven Goulstone and Cathy MarstonTaylor Marston with Steven Goulstone and Cathy Marston49:00e2630e70-ea39-4769-bb15-dd505a3b6169noWe are joined by the co-hosts of the popular Baptist NZ podcast ‘Biblical insights: The gospel and the land of the Bible’, who unpack their own journeys exploring the topic of Zionism. They discuss how a particular theological line of thinking and way of interpreting the Bible results in the justification of human suffering. In this challenging and personal conversation, they invite us to think beyond what might have been understood from the past to find God who “is on the side of suffering humanity.”Thu, 29 May 2025 00:00:00 +0000Lauren Domigan and Philip Church with Steven Goulstone and Cathy MarstonLauren Domigan and Philip Church with Steven Goulstone and Cathy Marston57:007bafb519-b552-467e-aa82-8e1b61e05e99noWe sit down with a church elder wrestling with big questions: How do we manage our capacity as churches and as individuals? Would our churches be missed if they disappeared? And how do we stay curious in a culture that values certainty? It’s a thoughtful, honest conversation about presence, purpose, and the quiet power of asking open-ended questions. Whether you’re leading, limping, or somewhere in between, this episode invites reflection on why we do what we do—and who would notice if we stopped.Thu, 26 Jun 2025 00:00:00 +0000Nathan Nelson with Steven Goulstone and Cathy MarstonNathan Nelson with Steven Goulstone and Cathy Marston49:008daf5d88-3159-44e0-b1bb-959f334f48aanoWe are regularly asked about what we think about various things, including what changes ahead we see are necessary. Earlier this year, Cathy and Steven were interviewed on another podcast, Down To Earth Conversations. In case you didn't catch it over there, have a listen to some more of our story and our hopes for The Changes Ahead.Fri, 01 Aug 2025 00:00:00 +0000Steven Goulstone and Cathy MarstonSteven Goulstone and Cathy Marston57:002c15a0d1-7843-4802-af79-2334a36ce998noIn this episode, we talk with the husband of a Baptist pastor who isn’t afraid to challenge expectations. He shares honest reflections on navigating faith, identity, and community in a role often overlooked. Nigel pushes against cultural, gender, and church norms, inviting us to rethink leadership, partnership, and belonging in the life of the church today.Thu, 04 Sep 2025 00:00:00 +0000Nigel Brereton with Steven Goulstone and Cathy MarstonNigel Brereton with Steven Goulstone and Cathy Marston47:00f4c8b148-446a-44a6-af7c-a87d290e4a83noWe talk a lot about change in this podcast series, and it seems that where change is imminent, often anxiety presents itself – both personally and institutionally. Becky expertly guides us through this dynamic, giving us some helpful re-framing and offering grace as we seek the best for our church communities.Thu, 02 Oct 2025 00:00:00 +0000Becky Sly with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneBecky Sly with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone47:00ed2522c6-bb2b-40fc-843d-61664747f454noIn this episode, we hear from Hanna Massad, once a Baptist pastor in Gaza, who shares with raw honesty the agony of the unfolding situation in Palestine. Yet his voice is not one of bitterness, but of humility, mercy, and a deep longing for justice. Hanna invites us to see beyond headlines into the human and spiritual reality of life in Gaza, and to consider what it means to hold onto grace in the face of unimaginable suffering.Thu, 30 Oct 2025 00:00:00 +0000Hanna Massad with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneHanna Massad with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone46:506a2dd564-a2c5-4421-b8eb-f7f4c6c950bcnoWhat does it feel like to experience religious trauma? Why is it so hard to put the experience into words? What do we need to be aware of in the church when it comes to how people experience our spaces, our teachings, our behaviour? In this episode, Anna brings some reflections from her own journey, and recent research into the phenomenon of religious trauma. A challenging but important conversation for us to wrestle with in the church.Thu, 27 Nov 2025 00:00:00 +0000Anna Harrison with Cathy Marston & Steven GoulstoneAnna Harrison with Cathy Marston & Steven Goulstone46:46e36b4b16-3d89-4c7b-b82b-1823cf6ede37noCathy and Steven ventured out to the annual Baptist Hui last year, and asked the question “What do you wish for the church?” In this first episode of season 5, they reflect on the answers people shared. Thanks to all who came and chatted with us!Tue, 24 Mar 2026 00:00:00 +0000Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneCathy Marston and Steven Goulstone36:3141017d28-eddf-4ce5-b47c-8a7d1cbc10c0noHear Debbie's story of the way her heart gets her into trouble, how her leadership prioritises the vulnerable and how seriously she takes Jesus’ command to care for the marginalised.Tue, 28 Apr 2026 00:00:00 +0000Debbie Spackman with Cathy Marston and Steven GoulstoneDebbie Spackman with Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone58:2975585737-87fa-48fd-a9e8-13828dd8a22fnoTue, 28 Apr 2026 00:00:00 +0000